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Actually, I have a whole bunch. However with what's going on in this country you need to realize that some radical form of gun control will soon become law.
All of my firearms have been recorded in the system so what becomes the best way to hide what I have from those who wish to take them?? :MIA: I'm trying to be proactive here!!

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Bury them and report them stolen.

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sell and re-buy

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TPTB know that the gun market is highly fluid. I seriously doubt they would come looking for a specific serial numbered firearm. More than likely, you are on a list as being "a known firearms purchaser".

Anyone who has ever filled out a yellow form when they purchased a firearm from a dealer is already in a database, as well as any NRA members, former military or law enforcement, if you sold online, bought online, attended a gunshow (?), belong to any of the gun forums, gun clubs, etc.

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, there were about 215 million privately owned guns in 1999. The NRA estimates that half of all American households (total US population is 294 million) have at least one gun owner.

For the month of April 2009 there were 1.2 million FBI Criminal Background Checks performed at the request of licensed gun dealers regarding a firearms sale. If a person were buying 12 guns there would only be one check. This means the figure could represent more than 1.2 million guns sold for the month. There is also the possibility that the person was turned down and thus no gun was sold, just a check performed. In the previous year for the month of April 2008 940,000 checks were performed. This is a 30% increase. How about next year?

Not to mention 5 BILLION rounds of ammunition sold in the last few months.

Every weekend across America, there are probably thousands of privately owned firearms that change hands. How would anyone know at any given moment what we own or don't own...

You are a worried about THEM knowing? Guess what? The lizard people want to kill all of us. Get over it. I don't see why it matters if they know we own a firearm or not. In fact, they are probably counting on it...

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Don't bother to come here looking for anything; guns, food, PM's. It all sunk on the sailboat I was going to live on when the SHTF. I will just have to leave my house and live in the FEMA shelters. Nobody home! Nothing to steal here!
:no_ma:

Poor me. :hissyfit_m:

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If you need to use the firearm in self-defense and you "don't have one", you will become the criminal at that point!

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The concept of "criminal" has no valid meaning any more. Not in a world where genuine criminals rape and murder in the trillions and thousands, respectively, with total immunity.

"Shoot, shovel, and shut-up" is a legitimate strategy in this world we now have. I'm dead serious.

No more compliance with "the law."

No more compliance with "law enforcement."

Live as a Free Man, treating others as one wishes to be treated (the only true, and eternal, law which must be followed).

If the police come to persecute you for doing right, then do what is necessary. No more fear of anything on this Earth. Including death for defending oneself.

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Dear Officer:

I don't want to kill you.
I don't even want to wound you. I admire your courage and the commitment you've made to help others, often at risk of own your
life. I hope you won't come for me, because if you do, one of us will die.
It may be you.
I've done nothing wrong. I don't intend to. But the government which you serve has passed too many laws. I am sure to accidentally
break one, some day. And that same government is systematically destroying the unalienable rights which our Constitution says
may not be infringed � very specifically, my right to keep and bear arms.
I am not some wacko lunatic, but I can no longer stand idly by, while decent people are systematically enslaved by an out-of-control
government. I cannot allow a corrupt judiciary to use its power to destroy my rights and my country. That government and that
judiciary has begun to use you to arrest and kill people just like me � people who believe that the Declaration of Independence, the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights mean what they say.
You don't know me, but you see me every day. I may be a businessman, a truck driver, an executive. I could be a housewife or a
salesman. But I am armed, as Americans have been for over 250 years, and I am determined to keep the freedoms which only an
armed people may retain. With a rifle, I can hit a man-sized target at 800 yards. At shorter distances, in the blink of an eye, I can
hit a head-size target with a rifle or a handgun. I don't wear a uniform. I don't drive a marked car. I don't wear camouflage. I could
be your own secretary, or your barber. I might be the guy who delivers your bottled water, or the parcel delivery lady. You don't
know who I am, or what arms I have, and you never will. I am tens of millions.
I am America.
But I know you. I know your uniform, your car, and your work schedule. I know where you work, and where you live. And that is good
for you, because not only am I no threat to you, so long as you do the job for which you are hired, I am also prepared to assist you
when you are threatened by real criminals. There aren't many of me left, you may think, but believe me, there are many, many more
than you can imagine. When the chips are down, we are the ones who are truly on your side.
On your side, that is, so long as you honor your Oath. We are on your side if you are one of the majority of peace officers who are
not corrupt and who have not sold out to the socialists and communists � freedom betrayers who will do anything, say anything to
destroy the America our fathers and grandfathers bequeathed us.
No, I am no threat to you, but your bosses in government don't see it that way. They think that I, and my arms, are a threat to
them, and they are planning to send you for me, just as they've sent armed, dangerous officers on select little missions for years,
taking out targeted individuals. On their orders, you may succeed in murdering me for my beliefs.
Or you may not.
Whether or not you succeed in murdering me, as federal agents murdered Vicki Weaver and her young son in Idaho; or as those
same federal agents murdered 81 men, women and children at Waco, Texas; there will be others who will rise up in my memory, as
I now rise up in honor of the innocent lives taken by the jack-booted thugs and black-clad imitation ninjas who think it is fun to
murder Americans � who have somehow become convinced that it is their job to murder Americans!
I am prepared to die, honoring my sacred Oath as an American, to defend and protect the Constitution of the united States of
America. Are you prepared to die to violate the Oath you took?
You see, our government is out of control. It has rotted, from the top down. You know it. You've seen it. But you, like many others,
have been too concerned with your job, your family, and your pension, to say or do anything about it. Deep down, you know I am
right.
But you think you must follow orders.
Or must you? Are you going to murder me for having the courage to stand up for the country and the principles in which you believe?
Are you going to go along with unconscionably illegal, unconstitutional orders, just as "good" German soldiers followed their orders?
Are you going to be a peace officer or a jack-booted thug?
There is little difference between a street outlaw who murders and robs; and a uniformed thug who murders and robs under color of
law. The result is the same. Property confiscated, lives ruined, families ripped apart, murder committed, and a free nation
destroyed. Look at history. Look around the world. As we move toward a lawless society, our country moves closer and closer to
anarchy and then some form of fascism. Are you going to enforce unconstitutional laws? Are you going to be the private army of
socio/fascist dictators who masquerade as democratic representatives?
Or are you going to do your part to recapture America? Are you going to keep your eyes and ears open? Will you quietly let me know
when the jack-booted thugs in the SWAT teams have targeted me? Will you let your fellow officers know that they are being sold
down the river by their corrupt masters?
Don't come to kill me. Because I don't want to kill you.
If you do come, you may succeed � if you get lucky. But don't count on luck, because it will probably be hard � damned hard. Like
millions of other Americans, I am the son or daughter of a nation of riflemen � citizen-soldiers who have a rich heritage of beating
the best the enemy can send against us. We are resourceful. We cherish our homes and freedom. We understand weapons and
tactics. You are foolish if you intend to be our enemy.
If you don't succeed, and in the long run, you won't, here's what you can expect: ambushes of SWAT teams, and the wholesale
slaughter of all the jack-booted thugs who have murdered innocent Americans on the orders of their socialist masters; targeted
assassinations and kidnappings of anti-Constitution judges, and assassinations of anti-American, anti-gun politicians.
By your willingness to be a good little Nazi, you will have unleashed a civil war � just what America's enemies want.
It doesn't have to be that way. You can do something about it. It's easy. Read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution
and the Bill of Rights. Although you took an Oath to defend them, you don't learn much about them in your training, do you? Today,
these documents are considered dangerous by the government, just as King George found them dangerous over 200 years ago.
Why do you suppose your leaders lead you to oppose the very rights you swore to protect? Why do they want a disarmed public?
You know the reason. It has nothing to do with controlling crime. It has everything to do with using you to disarm, fine, control, and
ultimately murder your American fellows � just like the brownshirts and the SS did to German citizens.

Don't fall for it. Don't force me to kill you.

(signed) 100 Million American Patriots


(written by William Cooper)

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LEO's better be clear on what they are willing to die for.
Are they willing to die for enforcing bad law?
I am willing to die for my gun rights (my friends think I'm talking shit about this) I am not. Only a hand full of things I would die for......my guns are on the list.

Some decisions are very easy in life. Simple really.

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Whatever you do, do NOT report them stolen, you will be wrapped up in more red tape and paperwork than the new Healthcare Reform Bill. Do a search on the pros and cons of reporting a lost gun...which I almost did when I thought one had been stolen. It is a nightmare, not to mention you will have a very difficult time purchasing your next gun.

Pick a few up at a gun show, they can usually be purchased "off the grid".


Good Luck!

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First post. In my state firearms can be sold without an official transfer. No paper work. So "sell" them. Then hide them.:smile:

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What kind of guns do you have? You know that there will not be a total gun ban don't you? A total gun ban would have to be proposed and passed by a majority of Dems in the House, Senate and White House. They know that this would kill most of their political careers. I doubt if they could even get enough Blue Dogs to vote for a total gun ban.
What you will see is a creeping form of gun control. Assault Weapon Bans and hi capacity magazine bans are definately on the horizon but they will have to fight tooth and nail to get these passed through the House and Senate. Of course Obama would immediately sign them should they pass.
If another Assault Weapon Ban and hi cap mag ban were signed into law you would see other laws proposed such as a Saturday Night Special Law since only the rich should be able to own guns. Perhaps a military caliber ban would be offered. The always popular Armor Piercing Round ban would surely be proposed. Then there's the Sniper Rifle Ban (any gun with a scope on it). The list can go on and on. We've all seen or heard the speeches from the anti gunners.
By the way, California now has ammo registration (in the latest NRA magazine). You do paperwork and give a thumbprint when buying ammo. There is no background check, waiting period, etc but a State legislator admitted they hope for an instant background check in the future. Over a dozen other states have proposed serializing and registering all ammo. This is truly scary. www.ammunitionaccountability.com It would take the ammo manufacturers 3 weeks to produce what they currently produce in a day if the individual bullets had to be serialized. You can imagine what this would do to prices. The bad thing is no one knows about this.
Anyway.....long story short....you don't have to worry about an immediate gun ban. You should worry more about the anti gun politicians using baby steps towards total gun control. Fight them on each and every issue. We should also really worry about the stuff that is proposed at the state levels instead of simply worrying about Reid, Pelosi and Obama.
Do you know what worries me more than the House and Senate trying to pass new gun laws? I worry more about government agencies and Czars simply using existing laws to ban guns. Suppose an agency declares that guns are a national health issue and bans them. The CDC is already talking about guns and "Epidemics"
Crazy taxes, EPA restrictions on shooting ranges, OSHA rules for ammo shippers, lead bullet bans (CA again) and a host of other restrictions designed to drive up prices worry me more than Congress and the dipshit in the White House.

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Engraved bullets, that is scray

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When cops search things: they go after everything they know exist.

If you have reciepts from a storage unit in your garbage can: it may be searched.

If you used your real name to rent that storage unit: it may be searched.

If your wife/kids/GF/best friend knows where it is: it may be searched.

If you drove to that storage unit and they have a supreme court approved GPS tracker on your car: it may be searched.

If you walk to that storage unit with your cell phone in your pocket: it may be searched.

If you bought that storage unit with plastic: it may be searched.(pay cash)

Now replace storage unit with Safety Deposit box, vacation home, foreign bank accounts, trunk of vehicle, boat, tree fort, hotel, airport locker... ect.

If there is ANY evidence tieing you to your storage location: you might get ****ed ITSHTF.

What is the answer? Keep a jennings in your dresser drawer, and a cheap .22lr in your gun cabinet.

Keep a couple Mosin Nagants preserved underground(not on your property), and the rest of your collection hidden in the house.


1st answer: 4th+5th ammendments
2nd answer if that doesn't work.
You had to sell/trade the rest of your collection away via private sale in order to pay bills. Give them the name of someone you looked up in the Obituaries just for the occaision.

They should be more worried about instant cold packs if you ask me.

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Buy from trusted individuals, without a 4473. Face to Face sales are legal and done enough times the firearm will only be traceable back to the last person who went through a dealer.

Lessons From the 20th Century

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Love the British 303......:565:

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I have no pms (or for the brits pmt)

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So how does the whole bullet engraving thing work when using a shotgun?

For that matter, how does any ballistic forensics work when a shotgun is used?

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All my latest acquisitions have been F2F with no paper and very good deals as well! For some things, I know I have to go through a dealer, but once you've done some F2F deals, you have to think; "Do I really want to fill out that paperwork?".

I keep my F2F guns stored separately from the weapons with a paper trail, just in case.

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Just a reminder... they have boats too...BIG ONES.:yes: